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Ranks:
| Level 0 | Level 10 | Level 30 | Level 50 | Level 75 | Level 100 | Level 135+ |
| J'nai | D'nai | U'nai | Lai'Shao | Dai'Shao | Ten'Shao | Ken'Shao |
| Rancine Harmless Joined: 13-Aug-2002 Posts: 1 From: Laurel, Md. |
My mission log says I get upgrade at lvl 105 not 100 for Ten'Shao, is this because of a paych and not been updated here on JD portal? Or is it a mistake in my mission log? Anyone else have same MO on thier mission log? Rancine |
| Taeglen Above Average Joined: 29-Aug-2003 Posts: 58 Guild: Knights Of The White Wolf |
Its called Ken'Shao, not Du'Shao... |
| Morimoto Poor Joined: 02-Nov-2002 Posts: 16 From: Over there ---> |
Only one Du'shao, that's Silva. |
| bobberofrob Mostly Harmless Joined: 15-Nov-2002 Posts: 2 From: Wisconsin |
Holy jesus you guys are crazy high level...any secret to betting so high so fast, or just lots of game play? And tell me why I should play a Jen Def...i am really interested in this class and race, more so then any of the others, but from what i read, seems they are a bit lacking in many things... |
| Madrikker Poor Joined: 29-Sep-2002 Posts: 15 From: Boulder, CO |
At lvl 112 I'm still having fun with this class... there are definate rough spots just before new beam and psi shield levels. At lvl 150 I'm preparing for disappointment, since I hear psi shield 7 is useless at CL50 and L8 shields look like a big drawback.
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| Ghent96 Mostly Harmless Joined: 17-Jun-2002 Posts: 5 From: Kansas City, KS |
HUUGE drawback.... join us in petitioning the Devs for the use of L9 jenq shields, at least like that one sitting in Jove's Fury, taunting us with a 64k cap to it. |
| Chaosdream Mostly Harmless Joined: 14-Oct-2002 Posts: 6 From: Gig Harbor |
| Chaosdream Mostly Harmless Joined: 14-Oct-2002 Posts: 6 From: Gig Harbor |
Yeah I see TT's cruising around the galaxy with 129k cap to their shields with the supercharging. I can't believe that they think that this is OK to give a NON-Warrior class this kind of power huh....Throw us some good shields shall we? Devs should understand this.  Later, Chaos of Galileo. |
| Scottifur Mostly Harmless Joined: 28-Oct-2002 Posts: 2 |
Our class is supposed to be the weakest warrior in shields.hull, i knew it when i chose the class and accept the fact.
But considering the fact that even with an aegis of the warder, 200% corona borealis, and platinum shield the best shield strength we could hope for is abt 60k ..... well a lvl 8 psi would nicely even the distance a little bit |
| lostdog Harmless Joined: 10-Jan-2003 Posts: 1 From: fullerton |
im stuck with no points for one becuase alls i like to do is train my cl not trade and exporation.
but i cant find anyone to go hunting out in gris with me. should i just start running jobs or not. and what i sujeast is that instead of sticking with the no good jenquia shields go and by one make by tada-o |
| Galdon Mostly Harmless Joined: 18-Nov-2002 Posts: 6 |
I love playing this JD, and can't understand all the complaining. All characters have to work at all three lvls, those that chose to hunt and do nothing more, well deal with your weak shields and not being able to lvl. This game is built around lvling all three, so yes you will have to do trade and explore jobs like the rest of us, or you will never hit the high lvls. The only problem I see is not enough high lvl jobs to go around, and it is becoming more of an issue with more people getting higher. I will just keep plugging along though until I hit 150, and love every minute of it. |
| yarn Poor Joined: 19-Nov-2002 Posts: 17 From: bulgaria |
There is no such thing as a level 129k shield the highest shield is a progen normandy max with 117k and its not sold in stores. You whant durabilite then you shouldve picked a PW or TE as JD you relie on stealth not shield strength. Its part of the games balance. What would be the piont of being a PW if some jenqui could not only cloak and do suprise attacks but it could also take all yo0ur shots. Play your classes strengths. I wish i could have level 9 beams but am i protesting no. Jenquis are supposed to have weakshields as PWs have weak engines and terrans weak reactors. And also dont bug me about progen engines although being our weak piont go up to level 10 because a terran level 6 is twice as fast as our level 9 anyway. |
| Proyectil Harmless Joined: 04-Jan-2003 Posts: 1 From: Germany |
Well,this game is like other RPG`s ifferent Professions,Different Missions,Different Equipment and so on.A JD in E&B is like whats a Thief is in Everquest:A weak but tricky n stealthy openent.
I never choose in any RPG`s classes like Pure Warriors cuz i love it to figure out what different tactics i need to different enemys.Mostly a warrior is the offense-type and NEED a powerfull shield and weapons but the Jenquai Defender is whats the name introduce:A Defender and he is not to be supposed attacking at CL30 a Druzil Mother Group of CL 30-33....he will truely loose this fight:The only way is to be what u are.If u have beams lvl 6 then summon 1 to you you may do 2-3 shots but then u have to foldspace or cloak and get your a.. outta there:2-3 hitz of the mother will blow your psishield away and the damage u did to him itz not worth a comment.U have to repeat this tactic up to 5-7 times to be succesfull and itz a very hard and dangerous way so: Defend Your Guild or find people to group.But if u like to fight allone and want to kill everything around the space for sure then u should use warrior. |
| yarn Poor Joined: 19-Nov-2002 Posts: 17 From: bulgaria |
Well said |
| Yendortheterible Harmless Joined: 01-Feb-2003 Posts: 1 |
can anyone tell me about these new lvl50 misions we are supossed to get ? |
| Trulak Poor Joined: 11-Nov-2002 Posts: 15 From: Milwaukee, Wisconsin |
Yes, you are right that Jenqui are supposed to have the weakest sheilds and use stealth. However, there is one small problem with having a shield capacity of only 40k even if you use stealth. Once you decloak, you are open to bombardment and Fold Space/Cloak get inturrupted if enough damage is done. If a lvl 150 PW were to fight a lvl 150 JW, the PW would win hands down. Sure the JW would have first strike and get some good shots off, but the PW would have over 100k sheilds and an insane amount of hull. I see high lvl PWs in Grissom all the time blowing away CL 50 Grissom Patrol with ease, taking out their 50k+ shields and 60k+ hulls. A lvl 150 PW can do a LOT more than 40k damage in just a few seconds. If thats the case, then any skills the JW would use would get inturrupted. So the JW could put up an okay fight, but it would be slaughtered fairly quickly. Even a lvl 150 TW would easily beat a lvl 150 JW because of the lvl 9 missiles. Those Zet missiles do well over 1k dmg per missile. I don't actually know the stats on the Zet launchers themselves, but with a maxed out TW thats at over 5k dmg every volley of missiles. 40k sheilding just isnt enough, thats only 1/3 of what Terrans and Progen can use. WW should at least make a lvl 8 Jenqui Only sheild that has a cap of about 60k or so. At least then that is only half of what others can use, but 1/3 is just too much of a gap. Of course the other solution to this problem is just decrease the cap of lvl 9 sheilds to only about 90k-100k |
| talisment7 Mostly Harmless Joined: 17-Nov-2002 Posts: 2 From: Colorado |
Bad idea to decrease the cap on the shields available to progen and terran's. As for the lack of effective shields, I agree, but I think that can be solved by, devs giving us the only two level nine shields for jenquai in the game (sold at joves fury) or giving us +50 modifiers to our resistances instead of +30, or increase psi cap and lower cast time. Terran's and progen have high cap for a reason, if anything, they need to come up a little. As for lacking in kill ability, I personally have a difficult time with cl 50 GSP, but I can kill level 48 rd's easily. I’ve never had my cloak interrupted and it’s rare for my psi shield. As for who can kill who hands down depends on the each users skill, and strategy they use. Having a thought process more often beats sheer firepower hands down. |
| Taxman6969 Harmless Joined: 20-Feb-2003 Posts: 1 |
Some people like to think that the JD class is weak.. that is not true @ all...A lv 150 JD can decimate with lv 9 beams @ 200%... that close to 25K without using combat cloak... With combat cloak the Damage base of the beams doubles.. thats alot of damage i dont care if you do have lv 9 sheilds the TW and the PW lack the Scanning ability to detect JDs there are some device that can detect cloak ships but its a % chance that it object will be reveiled... i know from personal experence that TWs and PW are usless when fighting a constantly cloaking JD...the sheilding is weak tho but Psi invurnability can be regenerated rath fast and with a lv 9 reactor you hardley use any power...if you use the right tatics a JD is a very valuable class and can kill most CLs in the game... leaving out the cl 66s =) |
| Muska2118 Poor Joined: 06-Mar-2003 Posts: 16 From: usa |
I dont uderstand why all these people are whining about the JD's max shield lvl being at 8. When you think about it, It kind off makes sense for a TT to have a high cap becasue they have huge cargo ships, and arent as good at combat. They need more defense than us. Jd's lack of shield is made up for by Psionic shield and cloaking also. the other 2 races cant do these 2 things |
| Muska2118 Poor Joined: 06-Mar-2003 Posts: 16 From: usa |
Anyway a JD is not supposed to be built like a tank. they are assassins not warriors |
| Muska2118 Poor Joined: 06-Mar-2003 Posts: 16 From: usa |
Ther eis no du' Shao in the game and who is silva. i thought silva was a Ken'Shao |
| Muska2118 Poor Joined: 06-Mar-2003 Posts: 16 From: usa |
Also wher edo i get good lvl 7 beams?? |
| Muska2118 Poor Joined: 06-Mar-2003 Posts: 16 From: usa |
how come nobody posts in here anymore? It slike im talking to myself  |
| Lugio Harmless Joined: 20-Mar-2003 Posts: 1 |
I posted a thread on the E&B forums about you'r concerns about the JD underpowerment, now we wait..... |
| Muska2118 Poor Joined: 06-Mar-2003 Posts: 16 From: usa |
We have been waiting forever!!!
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| Synchro123 Harmless Joined: 08-Apr-2003 Posts: 1 From: Canada |
At a high lvl a JD doesn't compare to a TE or a TT even. Try fighting at tada-o gate with beams, or well you could get some little lvl8 launchers and get ksed by some terrans. Even the stealth style of a JD can't beat a TE, zets do far too much damage. I've tried pvp with lvl9 beams and sure I can cloak and hit him pretty good, then recloak, but one shot from his zets will take down my lvl7 psi, 52k shield and a portion of my hull... Where in my hit if I'm lucky I can take out about 60% of his shield. when you see 5k dmg flashing from zet plasma dmg you'll realize how wimpy a high lvl jd really is. Now pvp against a pw is a little different, a few archo hits before you recloak won't do all that much dmg compared to the beam dmg you do to him... |
| lordkahless Mostly Harmless Joined: 22-Apr-2003 Posts: 4 |
i think it is a must that a jd have a new shield because not only do we have the weakest shield in the game but the ranges we have 2 fight at clearly suggest that we need them.is it fair the a TT with lvl 9 not gonna say the zet but a smitter and orther lvl 9 ml can take out a gsp in 5 sec when it take me as a JD 30-40 sec and taken major shield damage and have 2 recharge after every 2-3 kills.in that time he has kill maybe 10,now who is the warrior in the pic.
1)either make a jd only shield with at least 70k cap 2)or give us a lvl 9 beam that dose at least 700 dsp to match the power of a zet 3) or raise the damage on or beams by 100dps and shorten the recharge time by 50% with ne of those changes u give us a better chance at at fight and loot our own stuff.instead of makeing us high lvl theives who have 2 sit cloaked and hope the terran or the progen killer forget they have loot out so we can pick it up at the time lapps. im sure ne of my jd brother dont likt being market watcher buying some 1 elses loot .we wanna be able 2 kill for our selves |
| JezzDark Mostly Harmless Joined: 24-Apr-2003 Posts: 3 From: VA |
I'm not one of those god awful high types but i have noticed some balancing issues .... where non combatant classes are more combat effective than the warrior classes.. case in point shield leech... or the fact that even though JD's can have higher lvl beams there is really no class bonus for specializing in beam weapons. As for the psi shield its my best friend... i just wish i could put my targets in a reflective bubble so they couldn't shoot me so much... Not to mention a boost in the enery leach would be nice at least to the point where it is comparable to a shield drain of the same lvl...wish Jds has shield drain. Well I'm done ranting thanx for reading. |
| JezzDark Mostly Harmless Joined: 24-Apr-2003 Posts: 3 From: VA |
How come the mobs fire beam weapons at twice the rate of fire of the weapon they are using?? |
| LoneAzrael Harmless Joined: 26-Apr-2003 Posts: 1 From: USA |
Hi. Just yesterday I received my lvl. 30 hull upgrade and I'm pretty pysched out. Heres my equip:
Lvl II White Dragon Nishido Laser Lvl II Brown Dragon Nishido Laser Lvl III Callipus M2 reactor Lvl III Seiwake Sumo Shield Lvl III engine(don't remember name) Lvl II Dissonance Recombinator Lvl II device(don't remember name but increases EMP resistance) I'm only one combat level away from being able to use Lvl III beams. Are there any locations you can suggest for me to level up fairly quickly, but not too difficult. I don't want to have to pay off any more exp debt. Also a place with good loot would be cool too. Let me know! |
| lordkahless Mostly Harmless Joined: 22-Apr-2003 Posts: 4 |
hello again all me jd brothers.rite now its time 4 me 2 get back on a bitch stool.i alway thought the kv would be a place 4 us 2 hunt as a group"defender brotherhood".this again is not the cases now it seem that there is another sectorin the game that we will have 2 pay some1 else 2 do our hunting 4 us.even know at the point on the orion sever no 1 can really hunt there but still i think once everything is fixed we willl still be slaves 2 the progen and the terrans and once again pay high prices 4 there loot.
now that achros r dropping like the said they would be and the zet r selling like crazy,hell even the new mortor and smitter r dropping.NOW where is my beams,ans new jd shield ??????? y must we be the 1s that have 1 fight with in 2.5k range wearing tinfoil and usinging a watergun.dont get me wrong i like gold dragon and the purple but it take me 6 shot from 5 gun 1 even begin 2 equal 1 volly of 5 zet. not sure of the dps of the achors but i know 6 of them work way better then my 5 guns and at a better range. devs we dont like crying 2 u guys about what we need "it not a want" but u said u were balancing the game out 4 all races if so stop make the strong stronger and making us out 2 be a bunch of theives. |
| FleXoR Harmless Joined: 30-May-2003 Posts: 1 |
The JD is a stealthly class but cant hunt high mobs lvl alone. The jd is using beams lvl9 but beams got a short range and the jd is taking all the damage the mob can make to him... mobs beams + lauchers. I hope the JD will got shield lvl9 coz its a class of warrior. Its not normal that the TT have a shield lvl9, the TT is the less class designed for fighting and the TE too.. They must be weak, those both classes must be passive at combat and healing others... That's what i think... Anyway the JD make the balance btw fighing and passive classes. Thats why the JD cant find hes place in the galaxy.. hes not really a warrior and not really an explorer or trader... so what Devs gonna do ? they have to find an answer to this question..
Asgarde |
| angrified Above Average Joined: 23-Jun-2003 Posts: 75 Guild: Xtreme Force From: California |
Even though the JD's primarily use beams, don't forget the other weaponry we can use like launchers and projectiles. why not try to use combinations when attaking. this may be more hopeful then using beams alone. granted the i have only been playing for a couple of weeks, but I see some missles can do a lot of damage, and in the time it takes to reload you could be hitting the enemy with your beams or projectiles. just a thought though.
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| Guardian_Runefang Mostly Harmless Joined: 05-Jul-2003 Posts: 3 |
I have my beams at lvl 5 now and missiles at lvl 3. if a mob can chop me down 2 much, i sub out a beam 4 a rusty ol' launcher. the lvls i hunt take quite a pounding b4 they can hit back, by wich time the JD trademark-beams- cuts the opposition 2 shreds.
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| Picard Poor Joined: 07-Aug-2003 Posts: 23 From: U.S.A> |
PW goes for pure strength in combat, the TE goes for range and partial strength, while the JD goes for stealth and the element of surprise. Some of you poeple say the JD should have abilities that are the same as the PW like a lvl 9 shield, that is NOT the true concept of a JD. |
| Trippyhippy Mostly Harmless Joined: 20-May-2003 Posts: 2 From: Tennesee |
I am a JD and you know what, i'll take just about anyone in PvP. and Just for the record, my shields are 70K with a 15K Psi shield. I have an Eye of the Fang Fiend, a Ruby Disrupter, 2 Defenders Prides, and a Ghost Edge. Usin a Defenders Doumaru Shield, it's the best for the class, real easy to find. a Cygnus 9, with a a Reactor cap total of 7500, which is unheard of for the other 2 races. A deadly Breeze engine, plus 6600 Shield Cap. A Pague Bite, Contained voltoi escence making 72% Turbo, a Zenrai Force Projecter, plus 10 K to shields, A Ivory Ward, Resist all plus 30(except impact and Psionic). A lvl 9 Chimera, Making my beam Range 3.5K and givin me a 50% plasma debuff to use. I can solo the vindis shipyard and kill Ghost Ship after Ghost Ship....... You still wanna wine about weakling Defenders? |
| DarkGaret Harmless Joined: 20-Sep-2003 Posts: 1 |
Nice Trippy very nice ship lay out.
Im just a level 136 JD. Now I know what items im going to have to work for so I can make my ship able to with stand more then just level 55 volt. |
| malestrum Harmless Joined: 12-Nov-2003 Posts: 1 From: sacramento |
The problem we have here is that JD are said to be more than they are. When u get to the higher CL's many of your skills and abilities become useless, for example: Cloak, Psi shields and shields. I understand that with beams they don't do to much damage but when cloak, and psi shields are useless we have nothing. My suggestion is that the Dev's need to bump up the cap on Psi shields or shields maybe even both this way non warrior classes r not doing more damage than us. and the combat cloak needs to be more effective like allowing us to do more damage longer and I don't like spending skill points into things that become useless in the end but r needed to get to the end.
Dev's wake up! We need help and we need it now! So please stop making skills better for other races and classes and leaving the JD High and dry pay some attention to us! |
| Isotropic Average Joined: 01-Oct-2003 Posts: 33 Guild: Evil Horizon From: Australia |
Anyone noticed the Gold Psi shield.. or Invulnerability shield.... isn't
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| online4vr Harmless Joined: 12-Jan-2004 Posts: 1 |
I got a lvl65 JD and it rules...from all the other races i like this 1 best. But when im reading al this im getting a little bit worried if i should pick a different race and quit this 1. I dont want 2 invest al my time in a char that is useless for a good fight the higher its lvl becomes. |
| Carth Mostly Harmless Joined: 21-Dec-2005 Posts: 4 |
how does this game start plz post comment under me plz to tell me how |
| Carth Mostly Harmless Joined: 21-Dec-2005 Posts: 4 |
plz post here tell me how to start |
